Embody Your Energy
EMBODY YOUR ENERGY
Welcome to Embody Your Energy, the leading personal growth podcast focusing on the power of the mind and body through the lens of both science and spirituality.
Join us as we explore the profound connection between your physical sensations, intuitive knowing, authentic happiness and the roles they play in creating EPIC success in your life.
In each episode, we dive deep into practical tools and deep insights that help you:
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- Transform limiting beliefs into empowering truths
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- Access deeper levels of energy and vitality
Success is yours for the taking and this podcast offers a sacred space for growth, understanding, and embodied transformation. Through mini trainings, guided practices, and real-life success stories, you'll discover how to fully inhabit your energetic potential.
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Embody Your Energy
55. Owning Your Healthy, Pain-Free Body with Mark Gray
This week I talk with Mark Gray, an Online Personal Trainer with a deep passion for helping entrepreneurs, business owners, & C-suites live a healthier, stronger, and all-around better life.
As a pain-free performance specialist, Mark helps his clients escape pain and build energetic, strong bodies which allows them to approach their entrepreneurial journeys with much more confidence and vigour.
We discuss the importance of prioritising health, especially for those in high-pressure jobs, and how negative events often serve as wake-up calls for individuals to take their health seriously. Mark shares his journey into the fitness industry, his experiences with clients, and the common pain areas he addresses. The conversation also delves into the mind-body connection, the psychological aspects of health, and practical advice for those looking to improve their well-being.
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Website: https://www.paradigmproject.uk
Mark's book recommendation: Start With Why by Simon Sinek
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Welcome to Becoming Fearless, the personal growth podcast for you if you are ready to overcome fear and step into your greatness. Our purpose is to help you overcome your limits, have loads of fun along the way, unlocking your fullest potential in life, business, health and relationships every single day. I'm your host, charlotte Carter, a high performance coach and entrepreneur with over 20 years experience. I'm your host, charlotte Carter, a high-performance coach and entrepreneur with over 20 years experience. I've supported many highly driven, talented people like you who dream big and are ready to take action to overcome what's holding them back. Each week, my guests and I will be sharing hacks and habits on how to build self-belief, courage and confidence, to master your mindset and navigate your emotions so that you can reach your human potential in a way that feels light, fun and easeful and helps you become fearless. Let's go.
Speaker 1:Hello, everyone, and welcome to another episode of Becoming Fearless. This is a guest episode and I'm really delighted to bring to you somebody who I have never met, so this is going to be an interesting conversation. This is somebody who's just literally we. So this is going to be an interesting conversation. This is somebody who's just literally, we've just met now on the screen and we've had an exchange of emails when Mark messaged me and said can I, is there any chance of me coming on to the podcast? And that's kind of as much connection that we've had.
Speaker 1:And why I said yes to Mark because I have lots of people reaching out to come on the podcast. But why I said yes to Mark to come I have lots of people reaching out to come on the podcast. But why I said yes to Mark to come on is for a number of reasons. One I love an action taker. I loved how the email was written, all of those kinds of things. But also he has a real passion that really aligns with I Dare to Leap and aligns with Becoming Fearless, and I think that you as listeners will really benefit from hearing Mark's journey and how he helps people. So I am really delighted to go through this episode with you. So, mark, do you want to just introduce yourself and let people know a little bit about what you do?
Speaker 2:Cool. Well, first of all, thank you for having me. That was a nice little introduction. So, yes, obviously my name is Mark. I hail from Ireland. I'm originally from Ireland. I now find myself in Barcelona, so very different pastures.
Speaker 2:I did my time in Ireland and London for long enough and then wanted some sunshine. But yes, so I am, by trade, a personal trainer. Now I see myself as much more than that at the moment and that's just through the skills I've built. And I like to call myself a coach, which kind of describes what I do a bit more. As in, I do more than just weight training sessions with my clients, but I help predominantly entrepreneurs, business owners, kind of people in very high level and just high pressurized jobs, and I help them just change their life through health and fitness, amongst other things. One of the big things I focus on is pain-free performance. Now, that can be kind of a bit of a buzzword, but what it means to me is just helping somebody train without any pain, live without any pain, move without any pain and just not have to worry about it Physical aches and pains which can debilitate a lot of people. And yeah, in a nutshell, that's who I am and that's what I do.
Speaker 1:Epic. So people listening, I think there are topics that I cover within Becoming Fearless and we're going to take a deep dive into health as an overarching pillar today. But we're also going to talk about this whole concept of high performers and high achievers who are on this like huge trajectory of success in their business or and everything is coming together in that form. They may be really wealthy, they may be massively successful, they're hugely driven, they're very goal orientated, those kind of people. There's a pillar of health where these people, this subsection of society, should we say that health hasn't necessarily had that same drive as the business had. So it's taken a back seat until, in my experience and the clients I've had, until something's happened, that's been either a wake-up call or they've decided themselves there's a new year, or they've hit like an age like I've just hit 50. Some big things happen. They're like do you know what I've really got to look after my health? Are they the sort of people that you work with? Are they people like that mark?
Speaker 2:yeah, 100. So you hit the nail on the head there, and I've spoken about this lots in the past in my content and theater stuff. But one of the main things I've seen with people, and one of the reasons for change, is a negative, a negative event and it's it's so common and like you wanted to shake these people and just say why didn't you do this six months ago or do it a year ago? But we're wanted to shake these people and just say why didn't you do this six months ago or do it a year ago? But we're just creatures of habit, people by by nature or creatures of habit.
Speaker 2:It's like we get comfortable and then we stay in that comfort because it's it's comfortable, it's nice, but it's not until something negative happens, whether it's them getting sick or a family member getting sick or, in the worst case scenario, someone very close to them dying, which I've had with quite a few clients and they're like, right, I need to do something about my health, like I just, I just need to do something. So, yeah, I've had lots of experience with people with that and that is predominantly I won't say the main reason a lot of people get in touch with me, but it's definitely one that I'm definitely up there with with, um, probably like top two or three, is something negative happening and that force in their hand and um, yeah, like I said, it's it's just human nature, but I wish it was in that way, but it is with a lot of people and I was um.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about this when I went out for a run before we um started recording today and I was thinking about I've got a little bit of a theory on this in that for so many people, when I've worked with people who've got absolute burnout through their business and then they've decided that that's the time for them to start to look after their health and wellness, I think for some people there's an element if they can't see what's wrong or are disconnected to feeling what's going on, then they don't actually have an awareness that anything is actually ever.
Speaker 1:You know they just exist in a different type of bubble and it's just not going to happen. Whereas if you break your leg, you can see you've broke your leg by the scans, um, and then you know you've got to recover and you know you've got to do the exercise and the rehab to be able to get your strength back. But I think for some of these internal health issues that maybe start in terms of a niggle or an anxiety or an emotional trigger and then you can't these this element of people that can't actually connect to it on some way, it just gets bigger and bigger until, like, something happens yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's about piecing the dots together and I'll go back to, obviously, my background, or what I do with a lot of clients is just help them eliminate pain as well as obviously get a lot stronger and fitter and all these other things. But I mentioned this in a podcast previously is, in my experience, when it comes to someone having an injury or having some sort of pain whether it's like lower back pain or a bad knee or whatever it is it's usually a result of two things. One of them is poor movement, repeated over time and just after weeks, months, years, and then something develops and then that injury and that pain might not start off at a 10 out of 10. It might be a 2 out of 10, a 3 out out of 10, and then people get used to that and they don't really know anything else besides that. Like niggling pain, it's like we've all heard someone oh, it's just my knee. It's like it's just, it's sore. Every once in a while it goes away, it comes back. Or the other method of being injured is like blunt force trauma, and I've been lucky enough or sorry, unfortunate enough to have that quite a few times playing sports, like the shoulder has been dislocated and collarbone cracked in two or three different places all at once.
Speaker 2:When that happens, you do something about it and it forces your hand, which is like what?
Speaker 2:Just what you said? But getting back to the other type is and it doesn't have to be with injury, it can be with any part of their health what's like at all body weight. It's obviously quite a common one and it's just you slowly don't notice it getting progressively bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger. Where it could be the other, it's going down too much and it kind of relays into that just kind of being comfortable and also just being a bit oblivious to it, and oblivious because the truth hurts and avoidance is one of those things where it feels nice almost in the moment, but obviously avoidance in the long term is really bad and, um, yeah, so it just kind of goes to what you said is um, you get used to things and you just you're not as clued in and keyed on to actually what they might be, because it doesn't happen like that do you think there are people that you work with and help and support that that come to you and they're like full of fear.
Speaker 1:they're full, full of fear of, actually, what you might say, that their pain might never go away, that they are, like you know, stuck in this place, that you're going to tell them something that's going to be worse than what they imagined, so they put off coming to see you. All of those kinds of things? Do you think there is an element of fear when people first come to work with you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's funny you're bringing up I've work with you. Yeah, I I it's funny you're bringing up. I've must have been writing about a lot of these things recently. I don't know why I wrote about it might have been my email or it might have been on linkedin somewhere but I wrote how one of the things I used to see quite often to the gym is people would tell me they needed to get fit first before they've seen a coach because they were fearful. They were fearful of that coach that just runs them into the ground and is super aggressive and it's going to be really hard, whereas that's not my style anyway.
Speaker 2:But yeah, so initially most people do have that fear upon speaking to a coach and it's my job to just erase that fear. But yeah, it's super common and it's something I do see a lot of, because fear or change is scary. So you initially have that fear. But yeah, it is, it's super common and it's something I do see a lot of, because fear is, or change is, scary. So you initially have that fear. If you lean into that fear, usually on the other side of it is the things you want. But you have to be able to take that plunge and yeah, that's what I try to get across to people I speak to, whether it's potential clients, current clients or just anyone I meet online is behind that fear is is the good stuff, but it's easier said than done it is.
Speaker 1:It is, um, let people know a little bit about your journey, because I'm really curious and keen to hear about what, uh, what steps you take to go to get into this like this area of niche, really this, this pain area within the fitness field. What were the steps that you took?
Speaker 2:so I did what every coach did, obviously got my six week or four week qualification as a PT. You think you're the man you can coach anyone and everyone, um, which, to be honest, nowadays is actually a lot better, because most coaches you see online don't actually have a qualification. Because of instagram and tiktok and that things, you don't actually need to show your paper. But so I started off like that and then, as I started to get a bit more experience, I went and worked in quite a good gym in london, one of the uk's best gyms in um called equinox, and I got exposed to a lot of just kind of higher caliber such of of client and that's not me being disparaging to the other clients I used to train because they were all amazing, but they're obviously obviously you have people that are more used to five-star hotels and people that are more used to three horse, three-star people that are more used to three-star hotels. That's just plain and simple. That's not me trying to put other people down, it's just the way it is. So I started to get more exposed to the higher caliber people, people that were like CEOs, directors, and as I was doing, as I was meeting more of these people.
Speaker 2:One thing became apparent, or a few things. They were very stressed, which was completely normal to be expected. Health and fitness wasn't the main priority, it was just something they were actively trying to get back into because they knew they had to do it, not necessarily because they wanted to do it. And then, to top it all off, every single one of them had an injury. Now, not an injury that was stopping them doing their work, because they were wildly successful at their jobs and their careers, but enough to stop them doing things they enjoyed, whether it was running, whether it was a hobby, whether it was playing catch with their dog or their kid, something that was just chipping away at them slightly, whether they knew it or not, but obviously I'd get it out of them and yeah.
Speaker 2:So that kind of pushed me down that path. Also the fact that I have had more of my own fair share of injuries. So usually when I start to learn something, it's because I want to do it for myself first, and then I want to impart it on my clients. So I became more interested in that side of things because I've had a bad shoulder, I played so many sports that my body, I have to do a lot to keep it fit and ready and, uh yeah, just years of sports has just had beat me up. My whole right side is not broke, but it's very.
Speaker 1:it's not as good as the left sometimes, um, and I just wanted to fix myself, which I've successfully done, so, yeah, that's how I got to where I am now and I'm I'm also really curious because there are obviously so many similarities with the people that we work with, which is great, because there's definitely some sort of collaboration that we could talk about but what are the things that you would um expect these types of people to have going on in their lives? Because what I want to get to here is for people that are listening, some people, what I found is they're not quite fully aware that that's them. They're like oh, you know, that's not me, that's not me. And then I want to kind of like describe these people so that the people, some of the people listening, go oh, oh, my goodness, that's actually me and I really need to contact Mark because this is he's talking to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, like I said, I haven't always worked with the kind of the niche I'm in now. I'm in this niche for a reason because I know I can help. I could help anyone, anyone, anyone. I. I'd be very confident in my abilities to help them as a coach.
Speaker 2:But the type of person I work with now is someone with a lot of responsibility on their shoulders, someone that is probably working long days, long hours. Their stress levels are probably higher than your typical person and everyone has different stress, but this is probably stress related to, like, lots of decision making, managing teams or, and then their own personal and social life as well. It all adds up people, and then maybe people that travel a lot. I work with a lot of people like that as well, but at the end of the day, it's people that probably know they should be doing more, but they are more focused on their business, more focused on their entrepreneurial drive, which I get, and I respect the hell out of it.
Speaker 2:But in order for you to be as successful and live up to your potential as you would want with your career, your business, your entrepreneurship, with your family, relationships, with it all is that health needs to go up here. It can't be here. It's probably here, if not down here, for a lot of people maybe listen to this or a lot of people I've worked with in the past. I mean a lot of people I work with now. Thankfully their health is up here as number one. So yeah, if I was gonna, I could give titles and all that, but in in a nutshell, that's the kind of person that I imagine would, or I kind of aim at as such. Hope that's answered that I think I've gone about it roundabout way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, that's all good. So do you work with these people on like psychological aspects of the pain?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, or on like psychological aspects of the pain yeah, yeah, that's so some of the. So I split my coaching up into so we've got training or like working out, yeah, nutrition, lifestyle and mindset. So mindset related to lots of different elements, because if you are highly stressed and you have like limiting self-beliefs or you've got a negative mindset with certain aspects of your life, is that it makes it much harder for you to eliminate that pain. So you can be doing all the work in the world in terms of like strength work and doing the things that you may necessarily need to do to get rid of your lower back pain, but if you are in a chronically in a chronic state of stress, it's going to be much more difficult for you to eliminate that pain because your body's in that just high state of stress stress, stress, stress, stress. You have to know how to bring it down and so, yeah, the mindset side of it comes into that as well is believing that you actually can change.
Speaker 2:So I do a bit of that. To start on, my program is trying to change people's beliefs around their health and fitness and that they actually can achieve things, and the main thing I do, whether it's sleep or just overall health and fitness is just try to get people to shift their priorities to one of where their health is number one, and I I say this is the the nicest way possible I've wrote content about it recently as well is that you have to be extremely selfish when it comes to your health, because actually being selfish is the most selfless thing you can do with your health, because once that's number one, you feed everything else. So, yeah, when it comes to the mindset sort of thing, that's just try what I try to to get across and it doesn't happen straight away, but I'd like to think that I do get that message across and then people kind of buy into it and buy into themselves.
Speaker 1:More importantly, I've got a. I've got a question that I would love your take on, um I, the whole mindset piece is obviously a big part of how people function in terms of high performance. They've got to get their head in the game. Quite often, these people that mark and I are talking about, they're way too much in their head. That's part of the journey. Everything's going on in their head.
Speaker 1:90, their life lives in their head, their decisions, the intensity and everything like that dropping into their body and working out and looking after their sleep and nutrition, and everything allows them to get this optimum performance so that they can function perfectly, um, more balanced, should we say, in many, many areas. So I I want to ask you a question that I am always evolving my answer to this, which is do you believe, um, which is around the connection of this, which is, do you believe which is around the connection of the mind and body? So, do you believe that the mind runs the show or do you believe that the body runs the show? What do you think has the upper hand in terms of health change?
Speaker 2:I think about this quite often when I'm running and it's because I'm always in a bit of an internal battle with myself. When I'm running, it's like is my head going to give up first, or are my legs going to give up first? And in my experience, your body is strong, it's resilient. The mind tends to be. The thing that's a bit weaker is that humans are extremely resilient, like physically, and typically I think it's the mind that lets us down.
Speaker 2:I know because I've been there. I've been there before, I've been out in runs or I've been working out in the gym or I've just been doing other stuff, whether it's trying to do some deep work in in my office, and then my mind gets distracted and I procrastinate. Um, so I would say the mind, I would say the mind also. So what I say? The mind leads. So I think if your mind is not strong and your mind is not in a position or in a place where it's going to be optimal and it's going to lead you in the direction you want to go, then I know there's not so much, there's only so far your body can get you. So, um, yeah, that's where I am like it, um.
Speaker 1:So let's talk a little bit just about this kind of like, these areas of pain, um. Are there particular um areas that you see more common in terms of people that come to work with you? Is it is a particular areas of the body like lower back you've mentioned a few times is that a particular um? Is there a particular theme with your work in that kind of space?
Speaker 2:yeah, like I, I work with any like. When people come to work with me, they they don't come to me usually like they have a few goals and but they don't come to me usually saying I need to fix my shoulder. It's usually one of the probably like three goals. Usually the other one is to drop some body fat just to improve their overall body composition and look and feel better, maybe increase their like vitality and how they feel and build up their energy and then, yeah, eliminate an injury they have. Typically it would be shoulder injuries.
Speaker 2:Shoulder injuries, in my experience, is the most, most common and it's because your shoulder is the most mobile joint in your body. It moves in all these different directions. I've had a bad one before in the past. I've had about three or four clients in the last like year alone that I've had a bad one before in the past. I've had about three or four clients in the last like year alone that I've had shoulder injuries, like current clients that have developed injuries. Two different things that we've had to fix.
Speaker 2:But then back pain as well. Back pain everyone will probably get back pain at least once in their life, whether it's for a few days, a few weeks, a few months. I've had a really, really, really great client of mine. She's been with me now for like four years I'd say three or four years and she had back pain for 30 years 30 years of like debilitating back pain, and she's told this story before we've. We spoke about it on my instagram, but now she's completely pain free. She just ran a race, a 10k race, a few months ago, which she would never have imagined she'd actually be able to run again.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, shoulder and back would be the big ones, but it could be anything from a dodgy ankle to a bad knee, to a sore neck, whatever. It is just and just things that people don't think about, things that people I find is people accept pain quite a lot, and then you just it's part and parcel of your life. Oh, I've just got a sore knee, I've just got a bad back. It's who I am and I just tried to tell them. It's like, no, you actually can live without pain. You just have to be willing to put the work in and follow a certain plan. But, um, yeah, back back knee and back back knee and shoulder. If I was probably to list the top three.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that about that client Like you've absolutely transformed her life. How epic is that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's, she's amazing.
Speaker 1:That's what she I'm like. Through your guidance, she's putting the work and, you know, made the changes. That's the whole thing, isn't it? It's always a co-creation of a result like that. Um, yeah, so let's talk a little bit and wrap up a little bit about how, uh, how can people work with you? What are the how, the ways that you work with people? If people have been listening going do you know what I've got to get myself fit, and I know I've got these kind of like twinges, or I just want to get myself in a different shape um, and mark seems like the person that I want to help. How are the how, the ways people, can you help people?
Speaker 2:So, yeah, so I've got a one-to-one online coaching program so it can be done from anywhere in the world. Anyone can join from any corner of the globe, and I call it like PT in a box. So it's everything and anything you could ever need from a coach, and you can find that on my website, which is paradigmprojectuk. But, yeah, and I've got some freebies as well. If people want to get in touch so I can pop their way as well.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, that's how I help people and, um, like, like we've kind of spoken about before as well, there's a lot more to it than just simply workouts. Like there's a lot of lifestyle stuff, mindset stuff, obviously nutrition, that sort of things. But the goal, my goal as a coach, is to bring my clients to a point where they can leave me and they don't need me because they've learned the habits, the skills, they've got the knowledge, the experience and the confidence to go out into the big bad world themselves and still be successful and keep those habits. So they last for 20, 30, 40 years, as opposed to 12 weeks, and then fall off the wagon, which is quite common in the industry, because it's what gets clicks and makes quick money. But my goal is to teach and teach you. Then they can do things themselves. But yeah, so that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1:So if you're listening and you're thinking, do you know what? I have been that person that Mark's talked about? Or I am that person that has this high levels of stress I'm not spending enough time with the family, I'm always in my head all of those kind of things and that you are seeking or searching a sustainable way of living that prioritizes your health, your wellness, your fitness, your movement, your nutrition, your mindset, and you know you've got these things in your head. Where you might not necessarily take action, mark's going to be the person who can help you, support you, and all of Mark's details are below this podcast episode and you can go onto his website. You can get his freebies, you can book a call with him and see if he's the right person to help you.
Speaker 1:And one of the things that I really like about how Mark has shaped his business is that it's unique to the person's journey. There's a one-to-one offering. This is how you work. It's bespoke to you. We can work on all of the things that you're fearful of, and you can help yourself to build habits so that you can fly on your own. Am I right? Is that a summary round?
Speaker 2:You are. I might have to get you to do some copywriting for me, because that was very good. Yeah, that's it. That's it in a nutshell. I couldn't have said it any better.
Speaker 1:So let's just talk about the question that I ask every single guest that I have on Becoming Fearless, which is about a book that you have read at a time in your life that has really resonated and really helped you move through either fear or into more self-belief, or just made an impact in your life.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've got a few and I think, ironically, the book I'm going to mention isn't actually behind me no, my sister has it in Ireland, but I've got quite a few. But if I was going to say one few, but if I was going to say one, it'd be the book that's not there and it is start with why. Start with wife. Yeah, start with why, by simon cynic, which I'm sure a lot of your listeners probably know his name. But that book I remember reading.
Speaker 2:It's one of the very first books that I read, read through one of the kind of first like self-development books as such. I read that about four or five years ago and it kind of it was at a period where I was starting to really work on myself and take myself serious as a coach and think of my career as more of a business and something bigger hopefully in the future, and that book just helped me kind of decide on what I wanted and who I wanted to help and why I wanted to help them and why I was doing the things that I would be doing. And yeah, so that book is amazing. I can't recommend it enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's really, really good. I was on a similar journey. Actually. I can remember reading that and just thinking, whoa okay. This has given me a lot of aha moments. I can remember that, so definitely. The link to the book will be below as well, if you haven't read it. It's definitely something that is going to change the trajectory in your life, because he is a master of his craft in terms of understanding what drives people.
Speaker 1:So we could carry on this conversation, but I will wrap it up there. Is there anything else you want to add? Is there anything else you want to talk about? Or um?
Speaker 2:summarize mark if I was going to give your listeners one piece of advice. If there's people out there that are kind of struggling with their health and fitness or, like you said, they're a bit fearful which is super common with any aspect of life, but especially with your health, because it can be quite scary to to face up to sometimes, because at the end of the day, your health feeds everything. If you're unhealthy, if you're you're sick, it's not nice, it's scary, and then sometimes facing that it's it's, it's not nice, but to get around that, my number one piece of advice is just to start slow, start small. If don't.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of stuff out there at the moment on like social media, about saying you need to do this, you need to do that and the best workout, the best meal plan, the optimal time to sleep all this sort of stuff is it's an information overload. So just start slow, start small and just do something you can maintain and it doesn't take much out of you. So whether that's a 20-minute walk three days a week or doing 10 minutes of stretching in your house or going to the gym for 20 minutes, just do something to get the momentum going because eventually that 20 minutes three days a week will be 30 minutes three days a week and that in six months it may be four gym sessions with weights per week. So it starts small and builds, but uh, yeah. So that's the one thing I would like to add yeah, I like that and also listening to you.
Speaker 1:It's like make a commitment to yourself to change, because it's one of the to you.
Speaker 1:It's like make a commitment to yourself to change, because it's one of the. You can work with somebody like mark, on all of these great things, but ultimately it's for you to make that commitment, um, and there's a real driver and your health is priceless. Nothing, no, you can't replace it. Um, and it's a big part of my journey. It's. I worked for 20 years in mental health and then into health, as people know, but, and into high performance. But health is a huge it has to be your priority.
Speaker 2:It does, yeah. It's health is your wealth. As cheesy as that may sound, it's the truest word you'll ever hear.
Speaker 1:It is 100%. I stand by that. So thank you so so much for your time. I have loved chatting with you. I am excited for the people that jump into your world, um, from listening here and get curious and just reach out to you and see if you're the right person to help them. And I know from how you've come across today you can definitely encourage people who are fearful of starting, you know, think they have not got time, they think they've not got space, all of those kind of things. Um, definitely just jump on a call with mark if you want to make these changes in your life awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's been, it's been, it's been wicked. Yeah, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:I enjoyed that you are so welcome. So thanks, everybody listening to be coming for this. Please do reach out to me or to mark if you want to know anything more about what we've talked about today, but I will see you on the next episode. Thank you for tuning into this week's episode. I hope that you're feeling energized, fearless and inspired to take action today to stand in your greatness. I share even more tools and resources on my I Dare to Leap email newsletter. By signing up, you not only get early access to the I Dare to Leap products and services, but you also get brand new podcast episodes delivered straight to your inbox every Monday, meaning you'll never miss your weekly dose of becoming fearless energy. Sign up now at wwwidaretoleapcom forward slash newsletter or click the link in the show notes below.