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56. Redefining Self Confidence: A New Take On Weight Loss with Naomi Holbrook

• Charlotte Carter

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How often do we unknowingly live our lives on adrenaline, seeking solace in food and alcohol?

On this week's Becoming Fearless, I welcome Naomi Holbrook, an unconventional weight loss coach. After years of battling with emotional eating and the stress of professional life, Naomi discovered the key to unlocking true contentment wasn't just about shedding pounds.

Naomi empowers professional women to break free from emotional dieting and the overwhelming demands of modern-day life, helping them to rebalance and rebuild their self-confidence. Naomi's messaging has evolved to focus on the underlying problems behind weight loss. Her story of reclaiming her life at 39 proves that external changes are only part of the equation.

Join us as we highlight her shift from seeking external validation to nurturing internal fulfillment and resilience.

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Naomi's book recommendation: The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Becoming Fearless, the personal growth podcast for you if you are ready to overcome fear and step into your greatness. Our purpose is to help you overcome your limits, have loads of fun along the way, unlocking your fullest potential in life, business, health and relationships every single day. I'm your host, Charlotte Carter, a high performance coach and entrepreneur with over 20 years experience. I'm your host, Charlotte Carter, a high-performance coach and entrepreneur with over 20 years experience. I've supported many highly driven, talented people like you who dream big and are ready to take action to overcome what's holding them back. Each week, my guests and I will be sharing hacks and habits on how to build self-belief, courage and confidence, to master your mindset and navigate your emotions so that you can reach your human potential in a way that feels light, fun and easeful and helps you become fearless.

Speaker 2:

Let's go. Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Becoming Fearless. I am really excited to bring you another guest episode by one of my wonderful connections in this world, by one of my wonderful connections in this world, and Naomi is somebody who I have been in, I've been aware of and been in her energy and kind of followed her path for a certain amount of time. But being able to meet her in person recently, which was just super, super lovely and that's when I asked her to come on the podcast and here she is. So, naomi, would you like to introduce yourself and let people know a little bit about what you do?

Speaker 3:

Of course. So my name is Naomi Holbrook. I'm the unconventional weight loss coach and I empower professional women to break free from emotional dieting but also the overwhelming demands of modern day life, to help them to rebalance some harmony and also to rebuild their self-confidence oh I love that.

Speaker 2:

That's a new little intro, I feel, because it's not the same one that I've had. You've changed that a bit, haven't you? That's a new little spin on it, I love it things, and I'm happy to explain why.

Speaker 3:

If you, you know, if you, if you want me to a little bit, well any of you feel called to.

Speaker 2:

it's's just. That's different to when we sat. We sat together just to paint the scene for people. We were at a big PR event recently together where we actually went round and spoke with some top journalists that have various different publications out there, and Naomi and I were paired up to talk to a few people and it was interesting because we learned a lot about each other in that space and also a little bit about how each other explain what it is that they do. So that's kind of like setting the scene, and that was only maybe about six or seven weeks ago. So when people say to you that they're working on their messaging which is what Naomi just said to me a little while ago it's like, oh yeah, you are, because I definitely see a difference in, um, what you're talking about now, into how you help people.

Speaker 3:

so feel free, if you want to, to explain why you've changed that yeah, so I'm a certified nutrition and weight management coach, and how I started my coaching business was purely coaching women to lose weight. But, but, as my journey has evolved, as my clients journeys have evolved, it has become so much greater than that. It's not just about the weight loss, because the weight really is the symptom of other underlying problems, and for a lot of women in the current day, it's that we are living this overwhelming life of all these different demands and have never been taught and never understood how to manage our emotions, how to regulate our nervous systems, and so I work with a lot of women on really helping them to break that cycle of emotional eating, but also emotional drinking. You know a lot of women use alcohol at the end of the day to relieve stress or to celebrate, you know, a great week or whatever it might be, and so, yeah, so the reason for the sort of messaging really sort of and I you know changing, evolving, and I think that's the thing, isn't it?

Speaker 3:

It's all about evolving, and this year I knew was going to be a really big year of lots of changes, lots of shifts and, like you said, you know, it was only like six or eight weeks ago that we were in a room together. My results haven't, you know, my results haven't changed. Nothing like that's changed. But I just want to be really, really clear, because I know that 10 years ago, when I was clinically obese and struggling with my health and everything else, I didn't realize the things that I actually needed. I thought that it was just the weight that was the problem, when, when I lost the weight, life would be perfect but actually nothing had changed internally.

Speaker 2:

I love that and I love that the flow. In my opinion there's more of a depth in your messaging, so that you are talking to the women who may resonate with having some lack of confidence or may resonate with, you know, wanting to feel a bit more empowered and knowing that that might be a little bit in the head, knowing that that might be a little bit in their head, knowing that that might be a little bit to do with their weight, but not really claiming either. In some ways being able to come to somebody like yourself who's professionally qualified in all of the guises to be able to help, all of that must be like magic to their ears, really, because there is a sea of people in this field that can help, isn't there? There's a sea. I imagine.

Speaker 2:

I haven't been in that place, but I imagine when women are looking for somebody like you, they're like bombarded with various types of different professionals, different modalities, different ways of working, and it must take some time. And I imagine fear plays a part as well. There will be a fear of change for some of these women because for some of them it will be like a lifelong identity piece that they are changing.

Speaker 3:

Gosh, that is so interesting. You should say that I've literally had a one-to-one with one of my clients this afternoon and we have had that conversation practically word for word, because it's the biggest piece that I realised. I lost four and a half stones, 64 pounds of weight, sort of 10 years ago, and I did. I honestly, very naively thought that once I lost the weight I'd automatically be confident, I'd automatically feel, you know, strong, resilient, all those different things, and actually none of that happened. I was just skinnier, I was just slimmer, I was just four sizes smaller, but I didn't have all those other sides.

Speaker 3:

And what I have learned during my journey and now, obviously, what I teach in all the different modalities that I use within my program, teach in all the different modalities that I use within my program is that we will never make that long-term change unless we change and shift our identity.

Speaker 3:

And you say those words to somebody and it can be really like scary oh, my god, if I change my identity, people will stop loving me and what will my life be? Because I know what my life is now and we know, of course, that one of our greatest human needs is certainty and if we have anything that's uncertain, it is really, really scary. But what I actually say and I'm living proof of this is that as we shift those behaviours and those habits and we create that new identity, we get to shape it, we get to mould it, we get to make those decisions and create it. So it's up to us, where we kind of you know where we decide to take that to. But it really is the identity part that is what becomes the solid foundations to build everything on.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I totally agree. I know I've done a lot of work with people women in particular who've had all sorts of relationships with food and their body and everything like that Also. It's just high performance apart. One of my pillars is all about identity. But I've got an interesting question that's a little bit personal in my story that I'd love to just float with you and see what you'd say.

Speaker 2:

So I've always been similar size for me I've not got any story or anything like that. Being around a size 10, most of my life type thing had two children and kind of bounced back very quickly. Um, and I remember going to um, the all women running club, which is part of my story. Um, and there were women of all different shapes and sizes and I was there looking pretty athletic, to be fair, compared to everybody else, and I remember this whole assumption that other people had about me and my body that I would actually have this confidence and I would have this empowerment and I would have this sense of self and this inner knowing.

Speaker 2:

And is there an element in your work where you also help the women who may feel like they are pretty, um, comfortable in their own skin? It's the only way I can say it, but it's a size or a weight or a shape that they feel okay. It's never been something that has bothered them in any way, shape or form, like some of the other people that you work with. But they have these other aspects of their life that and, and it's showing up and it's preventing them from taking the next kind of taking the next leap in their journey. Do you work with women like that as well?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely Not every woman that comes to work with me, not all of them. It's about weight loss. I've had ladies that come to work with me that actually want to improve their relationship with food, but it's not around losing weight, it's around actually looking after themselves better. You know, I think the statistics now are really frightening of how many women are actually not eating three meals a day. They are literally just having a dinner in the evening and everything else is just a grab and go or a snack or a skipping meals, because they've put themselves so far down the line of self-worth that they are taking care of everybody else's needs their career, their business, their families, aging parents, whatever it might be children. And so it is. There's different elements. It's not just about weight loss, it is about creating that relationship with self that means that you nourish yourself but you also have that self-worth there and create that self-confidence.

Speaker 3:

Because, yes, I've got ladies that have worked with me who are what, you know, we would kind of deem as a sort of standard size or whatever it might be, but they still have, you know, and I think a lot of us as well I look back at my pictures when I was a teenager and I thought I was overweight and fat and I was actually incredibly slim and you know I didn't deserve to have an athletic body because I didn't do anything athletic. But I think that poor body image came in at a really early age for me. I saw my late mum diet um from you know. When I was about the age of sort of nine, ten and then emotional sort of situations around that, I went to an all girls school which was was very, very competitive. So I think a lot of women, regardless of what size they have been or they are, they have a poor self body image and look, you know, ok, a lot of us didn't grow up with social media, but we did grow up with Kylie on Neighbours.

Speaker 3:

And you know all the perfect, you know the perfect sort of size 10 or size 8 or whatever. We all had the magazines heat magazine and all those things that we grew up with. So we were constantly exposed to what our bodies should look like and I think for a lot of women it hasn't mattered what size they are. They've not been confident. And I put a post up on my social media I think it was on Sunday night of me in a bikini. That would never have happened before. And it's not because I have a perfect body. I don't. It's because on my weight loss journey I have also worked on loving every inch of this body scars, the cellulite, the um, you know stretch marks, every piece of it, and made peace with a body that I was really at war with for three decades. So it's not. It doesn't really. It doesn't come into size.

Speaker 2:

I don't believe it comes into our mindset and how we feel about ourselves thanks for clarifying that um, because there's a lot of people that I work with, a lot of people that listen to the podcast and a lot of people I have conversations with who are in that outwardly um presentation of looking like they might look fairly healthy, fairly um, together should we say um when actually there's, you know, a million and one things running behind the scenes in their head, their heart and everything else. So thanks for clarifying that, because I think people listening will then be able to picture themselves in in what we're going to talk about next. So let's talk a little bit about your personal journey, then, and you've already just touched on three decades of this unhealthy would you say this not great relationship with your body. How do you think you, what do you think has been the biggest thing that's helped you navigate that like 30 odd years, naomi?

Speaker 3:

I know I look back now and I, part of me, just wants to put my head in my hands because part of you kind of thinks God, what a waste of half a life. However, I don't think that now. I just think how incredible and how fulfilling that I have changed that path and changed that pattern. And it's not even you know. People have said to me gosh, you know your physical transformation. Honestly, I wish I could turn myself inside out and show the internal transformation, because that is the biggest piece.

Speaker 3:

My days were constantly filled with negative thoughts about I don't know sometimes how I managed to have a successful 21 year career, because all my thoughts were like negative around food, around my body, around my ability, around my belief, around all those different things. I was always second guessing myself, doubting myself. I had, you know, people thought I had confidence because I wore a pretty resilient mask for 30 years, but it was all a pretense, it wasn't real. I didn't have resilience, I wasn't strong. Any little thing used to really, you know, knock my confidence, whether it was, you know, little thing used to really, you know, knock my confidence, whether it was, you know, with a relationship or a friendship or family or whatever it was. So you know, such a big piece of what I have done and what I work on with my clients, as well as the identity piece, is the mindset. The mindset is the biggest, biggest part of how we feel, how we show up in ourselves, how we show up in our businesses, how we feel about food. You know, I, literally I would have given myself the label I did, for, you know, 28 odd years I was an emotional eater it's how I described myself, because I couldn't control food and alcohol. If I was sad, I'd eat a tub of ice cream. If I got to the end of a Friday and I was like, oh, thank you know, relieved at the end of a week, I'd order an Indian takeaway and have a bottle of wine. I'd go out for brunch with the girls at the weekend. Everything involved, you know, I say food and alcohol, but food that was not serving me. So you know it was, it was, it was a perpetual cycle and really it started from a young age. Like I said, I, you know, I know my mum. God rest her soul if she realised she would be mortified, but again, it's. I guess she probably saw it from her mum and then you know I saw it from her. I guess she probably saw it from her mum. And then, you know, I saw it from her.

Speaker 3:

I think I bought my first tub of Slimfast at 12 or 14. I hid it in the back of my wardrobe. I used to skip meals, I used to pretend that I'd eaten my packed lunch but I wouldn't, because I was like, oh my god, I need to lose weight, I want to be slimmer. And then really my mum passed away when I was 19. Then really, my mum passed away when I was 19 and then my 20s and my 30s just literally became just. I just didn't know how to break that cycle. Everything just involved, you know, food, alcohol. I just didn't know how to now I know regulate my nervous system. I didn't even know it was a thing. I just thought I'm an emotional eater. So that's me, me for life. I think.

Speaker 2:

I think that's so common, isn't it? And I know with a lot of people with the crossover in the work that we do, where people the classic of you don't know what you don't know. So I know a lot for myself and my own journey around. You know limiting happiness, limiting joy and putting everybody else and all of those kind of things, and I can look back and think why did I do that? But I truly believe that every part of your journey serves its purpose and takes you to where you are now. So I always say to people don't have any regrets as such, just as long as you've learned what it is that you wanted to learn to get you to where you are now.

Speaker 2:

So one of the biggest things that I see is around this whole nervous system. So a lot of the high performers, high achievers, they are running on adrenaline. So their relationship with food is on adrenaline. Like you said earlier, it's just what can I grab? Or what we're going to do socially? Let's go and overeat or whatever it is, and couple that with a load of drink, um, and that would be what they would call unwinding um. And when I train in positive psychology and I saw this to myself, for myself in a certain extent, but the nervousness and stuff is so, so simple on some level, so powerful on some level and so impactful that actually it can transform you within a matter of days and weeks, can't it? Is it something that your clients are unaware of when they come, they can like just not, don't know about this, it's an education piece. Or are they kind of starting on that path and realizing where? Where are they on that journey?

Speaker 3:

I would say that 99.9% are not even aware of it. And one of the biggest things, you know, I just one of my clients, graduated today from a four month programme with me and she said I have learnt so much from you and she has been a yo-yo dieter for 30 odd years. And she said I just, you know, and I have ladies that join the programme and within the first week they just say how have I got to 50 and didn't know this? But you know, I think, well, that's exactly where I was, I didn't you know. And, like you say, you know what you know, you don't know what. Know what you don't know.

Speaker 3:

So no, I would absolutely say that the majority of ladies that come to work with me, a bit like I did, they think that they're the problem, they think that they are the failure, because they've tried every diet, they've done the different clubs and the sachets and the drinks and the juices, and it's never and it's not worked, or it's worked for them, as in it's, you know, they've kept the weight off for six months and then it's all gone back on again. But so many don't even realize about the nervous system, they don't know about the responses, they don't know about how to reprogram their neural pathways, which you know, all those different modalities that I use with inside my program. They don't know any of those things. When they come to me, they honestly think that the only way to lose weight successfully is to diet and they think that they've failed, not, the diet industry has failed them. So yeah, for them it's.

Speaker 3:

You know, I'm always getting ladies saying, oh my gosh, this is such a light bulb moment. Oh my gosh, why didn't I know this? Why didn't I know that? But how can we? You know, I've spent the last what? Six years of my life ten years, if you consider, like my transformation journey, but six years, thousands of hours of research, certifications, trainings.

Speaker 3:

You know all those things to learn my skill, to be able to teach it. You can't, you can't expect anybody to know any of that if they're not. You know, working as an expert in the field. So I think and I think that's the difficulty as well, and of course we know this because of the work that we do we know that it's the ego that stops us from believing that we don't know anything. So all women say to me I've tried everything, I've done everything that's out there. And then, of course, what they discover is they've only tried everything of what they know is available. They've not, you know, understood that there are different layers that need to happen for you know, the transformation to you know, to happen.

Speaker 2:

And we're all so complex as human beings, aren't? We, and I think women, have this nature where they are gonna assume on some level that it's actually something wrong with them. Um, rather than just a lack of awareness that everyone will have, everyone will have a lack of awareness of something, because nobody could be an expert in absolutely everything. That's just not possible. But there's a piece around permission. I think with a lot of the women that I work with about permission to accept that and permission to own that, and then permission to in some ways be vulnerable to be able to navigate the transformational change. So in your four-month program, what is there kind of like an element that women would be? Um, go through this vulnerability piece, because I think there's a lot of fear around absolutely vulnerability absolutely.

Speaker 3:

And one thing that I am very um I'm not going to say cautious, that's the wrong word very respectful of is. I've been on this journey myself. I know the fear, I know the feelings of failure, I know the fear around having hope of actually changing. I know all those things. So I'm respectful of that vulnerability and of how we bring it out and how we utilize it. But it is something I say at the very, very beginning of my program with all my clients is that that willingness to be vulnerable will absolutely have the most incredible impact on your journey, and I know it has done for me. So I encourage it, I support it.

Speaker 3:

My inner circle community, which is where all my members coach with me, it is a community that is free of judgment, that is free of shame, that is free of guilt, because I had all those things for so many years and a lot of that is what hindered my relationship. I was embarrassed, shameful and riddled with guilt that I, as a successful businesswoman and you know somebody who had lived independently for a long time and you know managed to buy her own property and things like that. I felt really ashamed that I didn't know how to look after myself properly and I didn't know how to eat properly and manage my emotions and all those different things. So I'm very respectful of that vulnerable piece because I know for a lot of people, for a lot of women and men listen, I don't work with men. However, I do have a lot of men reach out to me and say, gosh, so much of what you say relates to me too, and I think a lot of us were not brought up with that vulnerability piece.

Speaker 3:

It's why I hid depression for the best part of 30 years. It's why I didn't go to therapy for my mum's death for 25 years, because I was ashamed and I was embarrassed and I felt riddled with gosh. You know I should be able to deal with this all on my own, but we all know that. You know school doesn't teach you how to deal with trauma and death and you know navigating your expenses and things. It doesn't. You don't get the practical, everyday advice and support and solutions that you need. And you know a lot of ladies come to me in my programme and they say, oh my God, I could have done with this 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, to have these skills and tools and strategies now to take through the rest of my life.

Speaker 2:

I love this now because just look at the ripple effect of the work that you're doing and this, like these women.

Speaker 2:

It's so satisfying to have people that you've supported in in all of the ways where they truly transformational, and their whole education that you're giving them and the whole perspective, the whole mindset shift, the whole regulation of the nervous system, the whole management of their emotions and everything else that you provide has such a ripple effect. These women will have relationships, they will have families, they will have friendships, they will have work stuff and the ripple effect of the work that somebody like yourself does is absolutely huge. So I just, you know, a massive thank you to helping all those people on the massive ripple effect that that in the work that you do. Let's take our listeners to the place um, where you made your decision that it was all going to change. There will have been um, a place um, like I imagine a lot of your potential clients will be if they're listening that they're like okay, this is kind of like maybe it's time for me to do this, because I feel this is this let people that have a little insight into.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know what happened for you after these sort of like this amount of time. Really, what was the next stage of the journey where you're like I gotta change now?

Speaker 3:

And it was 10 years ago and I can literally picture myself, I can see myself, I can hear the conversations, everything. And I had, like I said, I had tried for the best part of three decades to lose weight, to sustain my weight, to be happy with my body, all those different things. And then I turned 39, and you know, we know for a lot of women that that sort of 39, 49, those are fairly big numbers. And I had chosen not to have children, I was single, and I guess there was a huge moment for me of I'm 39. I'm seriously overweight. My doctor, doctor, my GP, had said to me just, you know, a few weeks before my birthday you are pre-diabetic, you've got to get your weight under control, you've got to um, you know, sort out your health, all these other things. At the time I had chronic back pain because I have a spinal condition. I'd had surgery in my 30s but I wasn't helping myself with any of these things.

Speaker 3:

And then I turned 39 and I saw the pictures a couple of days after my 39th birthday and I just remember looking and thinking how have I got to this? And it wasn't even just being overweight my skin was grey, my eyes it was like they were just dark, there was no life behind them. And in that moment after my 39th birthday, it was quite literal like this I said in my head I am not turning 40, fat, single and feeling as depressed and as low as I do. And that's when it all changed. I was like I just started to make small. I didn't do all the things I'd done before. All the crash diets, all the giving up everything I love, all the, all those things. I just made a decision that by the time I turned 40, I was going to feel the best that I've ever felt.

Speaker 2:

And I mean I'm very curious to know, because you just said I'm not going to be fat and I'm not going to be single and I'm not going to be like this when I'm 40. So what happens when you turn 40?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I wore a fabulous jumpsuit because I'd gone from well you know size pretty much 20 down to a size 10. Wow, I'd lost 64 pounds. I listen, you know, without kind of you know this sounding sort of egotistical, I looked fantastic but I still had really bad anxiety, I still had really bad depression, I still wasn't really in control of my resilience, my inner strength, my emotions, all those different things. And here's the funny thing, because, you know, like I said, I didn't want to be single, I didn't want to be fat. Well, I'd lost the weight and, you know, physically, the transformation had happened. And it's really funny how and I know some people will, some of your listeners will cringe when they hear this, but a family member said to me when I was on, at the beginning of my weight loss journey. They said to me when you lose weight and you're happy with yourself, you're going to meet your Mr Right. And again, I kind of thought that was going to happen. I thought that when I got to this size 10 and I looked fabulous in this jumpsuit and I was away for my birthday weekend, I thought that, you know, all this magic was going to happen and the rest of my life was just going to all fit into place and it didn't.

Speaker 3:

And I sit here 10 years later. Obviously, though relationships, my career, shopping, I was always looking for external and validation, always looking for that external validation, and the quick dopamine hit, which is why, obviously, food and alcohol were always such a huge thing for me and, as my journey has evolved, I no longer look for those things to bring me happiness or anything. I have all the fulfillment that I've created inside. Um, and, like I said, you know, I I turn 50 in. Well, I know I think it's your 50th year or it's your 50th month. Yeah, I turn 50 in March next year and I'm like, do you know what? I just want to continue being fabulous. I don't. There's no other demands, there's no other. I want this in my life or I want that in my life. I just want to continue on the path I'm, on being happy, being fulfilled and all that side of things, and not looking outside for any of that external validation anymore.

Speaker 1:

I love that and I just want to touch on a point of what you've just talked about there, because I know in my 20 years of mental health, I know that people that I work with on part of my personal journey this seeking external validation I'll be happy when I'll be successful, when I've earned six figures, multi-six, seven figures or whatever aspect that people are driven by that's external to themselves. I know for me personally when I had this big realization that I'd put everything outside of me once I started doing the work. Inside it was all going to be different. But I remember when I first realized that all of my symptoms felt even bigger than ever because I put so much weight on these external things that actually when I got there and then it hadn't happened and it was like, oh my goodness, it's even worse now.

Speaker 1:

Were you like that when you turned 40, when you were like this, like you know, jumpsuit, goddess? Then inside were you thinking, hang on a minute, this, this is. I still feel like when I was 39 or still feel like when I was 30. Did it feel more intense? Did it feel like the course of your journey?

Speaker 3:

It didn't feel more intense because I think that you know, like we said when we came on and chatted before we came on here, we said about how, you know, everything sort of happens as it's meant to happen, the journey unfolds as it's meant to unfold and I think that for me the physical part of the transformation had to happen first, and then it kind of became the inner transformation and the mindset and the mental health and the emotional wellbeing and all that sort of side of things.

Speaker 3:

So I don't and I don't know, you know, maybe maybe I was more aware because I was eating better, I wasn't drinking very much alcohol, and I know this from all the women I've worked with and from my own experience that alcohol clouds us a huge amount Our judgment, our reaction, our responses, our mental health, our emotional, you know, cognitive activity, everything, our mental health, our emotional, you know, cognitive activity, everything. So I think what just happened really was that it was like it was like an awareness kind of peeling away. I kind of describe it a little bit. Like it was like I had these blinkers on and then all of a sudden it was like the blinkers came off and I was like seeing everything in 3d. I was seeing.

Speaker 1:

I was seeing the real world which I just felt like I'd never seen before and is that what the women in your program is, that kind of the typical journey? Is it that they're first in your formal program? All those people work, women work with you one-to-one. Is it that every they start to see everything change? Is that kind of how you work with them? So it's like a whole life transformation.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, absolutely. And listen, that sounds so scary, doesn't it? And I know, if somebody had said to me 10 years ago, you are going to transform your life, I would have been terrified because of that. You know, I was the most certainty-driven person. I needed to know where my salary was coming from. Every month, I needed to know that my job and look if, if the pandemic taught us nothing other than there is no certainty in the world. We learned something from that and you know, as an entrepreneur, every day is a day of uncertainty. We, you know, we either embrace it or we run back to the corporate world and take the nine to five job that is stable. So everything that I do is a really gradual process in the program. So it's not kind of like, and that's why, you know, so many women say to me my gosh, if I'd realized it was this simple. And I'm not going to say easy, because we all know that. You know it's not easy, but it's simple.

Speaker 3:

The strategies that I use, you know. Obviously an element of it is nutrition, so I help ladies to nourish their body, to fuel their body better. That then has a knock-on impact on other areas and we help with boundaries and all those different things and it's I always describe it like it's the puzzle and they just feel like they're putting the pieces of the puzzle that either was on the floor all over the place or they actually never had the puzzle in the first place. They didn't know what that puzzle should look like. And you know I don't influence how my clients lives look. Their puzzle is their puzzle. But I help them to facilitate putting those pieces in and maybe there are pieces that they don't have and those are those pieces that I can guide, share, empower them with to be able to use them.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I love that. So who are the types of women that you really love working with?

Speaker 3:

do you know what I, honestly, I I feel really really blessed with the women that you really end up working with. Do you know what I, honestly, I feel really really blessed with the women that come to me and I have this inner circle community and they are literally like these fierce cheerleaders of each other. So, gosh, and you say that it has on their family's lives, their partner's lives, their parents' lives, their friends' lives, their work colleagues. You know I've had women contact me and say my work colleagues are asking me what I'm doing because they're just like you, are just so nice to be around and things have changed. And you know, you'll know this saying. But I always say to my clients be the lighthouse, not the tugboat People. When your energy, when you are lighting yourself up, people will want to draw themselves to you.

Speaker 3:

So, honestly, I love working with all women because I just love seeing. I love seeing that transformation, and it's not just the physical transformation for me, I love seeing. You know, my clients come to me and they've not had the confidence to do anything. That's a little bit sort of out there. And then I have ladies that join my program and then all of a sudden they're signing up to do cold water swimming. They're, you know, taking a class in something that they never would have done. They're wearing a bikini on holiday. So, for me, I just love working with women and seeing that transformation, that belief, that confidence, that self-esteem, that self-worth, because I also know, you know, having lost a mum at an early age. I also know that their daughters, their goddaughters, their nieces, even, you know, nephews it's not just, you know, female. I know that it's having an impact on all of them too.

Speaker 1:

You can feel your passion. It feels like you are totally aligned with what you are here to do, and the journey that you went on for yourself personally, to be able to get to where you are, both personally and professionally, is inspirational on so many levels, but I feel like it is also energetically brought you to where you are now because you just infuse what it is that you do. So we could carry on this, but we do have to round it up. I will put all of Naomi's details underneath this episode. So, people, if you're listening, women, if you are listening, and Vivian, do you know what? I'm curious.

Speaker 1:

I would like to have a conversation and please do reach out to Naomi. She is lovely as she sounds on here. She's going to be able to support you and talk to where you are, no matter where you are on your journey. Um, and then just to round up, the last question that I always ask all of my guests is, um to name a book that has really impacted their life in some way, shape or form, that's helped them overcome some fears or help them navigate to where they are today.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and we chatted about this before and it's the big leap which is which is by Gay Hendricks, and I'm sure I know it is because obviously, we're in similar kind of entrepreneurial circles and you always see people saying you know the first book and I started with my first business mentor in 2019. And, if I'm honest, up until then, I didn't know about how to change your mindset, how to evolve, how to grow, all those different things, and I think that book, for me, reading that, I think it opened my eyes to possibilities and I was, you know, I was not a risk taker in my life at all. Everything was all about, you know, safety, certainty don't rock the boat, all those sorts of safety certainty don't rock the boat, all those sorts of things, don't ruffle feathers. But I think that book there were some elements in there that definitely, for me, helped me to feel that this is possible. You can do things, you can change things and, you know, 101 books have been read since which I I take something from every single one of them.

Speaker 1:

The Big Leap is such a good book for people who are first starting out in business. I feel I mean I was talking about this earlier it's a great introductory book. Although I say introductory, people read it many, many times. I, I know I have because as you grow and develop and evolve in your business and in your life, um, you'll read it again and you'll pick up something else. So definitely go and get that on your um to listen to or to read if you know that you are looking up against some sort of limit or pausing your potential in any way, shape or form. So thank you so so much for that. Naomi, I have loved talking to you and listening about your journey and I just celebrate you for who you are now and just love the vibe that you bring to the world and how you can help women really transform not only their lives but transform their how they feel and that huge ripple effect.

Speaker 3:

So thank you so, so much for being. Thank you so much for having me on as a guest you are so welcome, so thanks a lot.

Speaker 1:

Listeners, like I say, don't follow naomi. All of the links will be underneath the podcast. Don't follow her. Reach out if you fancy um a chat and see how she can help you. So take care and I will see you on the next episode. Thank you for tuning into this week's episode. I hope that you're feeling energized, fearless and inspired to take action. Today to stand in your greatness. I share even more tools and resources on my I Dare to Leap email newsletter. By signing up, you not only get early access to the I Dare to Leap products and services, but you also get brand new podcast episodes delivered straight to your inbox every Monday, meaning you'll never miss your weekly dose of becoming fearless energy. Sign up now at wwwidaretoleapcom. Forward slash newsletter or click the link in the show notes below.

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